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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

Never Take Your Boat To Clearwater Yacht Service

My main points of contention with Clearwater Yacht Services (CYS) are as follows:

1. Poor Diagnostic Abilities - CYS demonstrated poor diagnostic abilities and then charged me for the wasted effort. This is evidenced in several places on the (b.) invoice and (c.) spreadsheet.
2. Incompetent Mechanics - CYS demonstrated poor mechanical abilities and subsequently charged me for the additional labor involved to repair their mistake and is evidenced in the (c.) spreadsheet.
3. Additional Labor Hours - CYS charged me mechanics labor rates for non-mechanic activities and as a result added many labor hours to the invoice thus inflating the total hours for this job to 47.5. Total Bill With Parts $6000.
4. Poor Service - CYS returned my boat with several grease stains on my new interior and carpet, trash, and still not repaired as requested in original work order (a.) and (d.) additional pictures.

I took my 22' Sunbird with a 5.0 Fl Inboard/Outboard to Clearwater Yacht Service to have the following items repaired

1. The boat had been leaking slowly into the bilge for several years through an unknown source.
2. Recently oil had started leaking from the motor into the bilge from an unknown source.
3. Recently motor had started to over-heat while underway.
4. Recently motor started running poorly.

These are the points of contention on a line item basis: (see spreadsheet.):

1. Line 5 thru 14 - Identified area of leak to be assembly at bottom of dipstick tube. At this point the mechanic has diagnosed my problem as a leaky dipstick assembly. 4 hours later they determine that this is not the problem. Why was I charged $400 for this service? One mechanic told me if there is any rust present on the oil pan it's just a matter of time before the rust eats through the oil pan anyway, so they replace it first thing.
2. Line 30 thru 34 - Cleaned & Prep'd Oil Pan Gasket Surfaces. This is not work that should be billed at a mechanic's labor rate of $100/hr. This is a helper's job and should be billed at a lower rate than mechanic's labor.
3. Line 37 thru 40 - Received Notification Oil Pan had arrived at VOLVO Repair Center. CYS charged me $150 to pick up my oil pan from the part store. Again, mechanics labor rate should not be applied to trips to the part store.
4. Line 44 thru 46 - Received Notification Engine Mounts had arrived at VOLVO Parts Distributor. Note: This trip to the part store was on the same day as #3 above and was also to the same location. Why not pick them up at the same time? Again, not mechanic's labor rate here for part delivery.
5. Line 51 thru 55 - Moved Engine from Storage and Installed New oil pan & Engine Mount Lower Sections. The engine was put back into the boat too early ($500) and then was subsequently removed again at my insistence because the source of the leak had not been detected. It is much easier to find the leak while the engine is out of the boat. See line 79.
6. Line 68 thru 71 - Removed Raw Water Pump. This was determined to be the cause of my motor overheating issue. This service was preformed however; my boat still overheats just as it did before I took it to CYS.
7. Line 73 thru 78 - Began Removing Spark Plugs for Replacement - 1 Broke (metal housing of plug). This is poor mechanics. Why should I have to pay for something they broke while performing their service? This later cost me $800 dollars in labor not to mention the machine shop service to remove the plug, and the additional gaskets required to put these parts back together. See lines 87-89, 92-93, 103, 107-116 for more detail.
8. Line 94 thru 99 - Researched Several Sources to Find Needed Gaskets. CYS charged me $225 to look up gaskets in a part book. The gaskets were subsequently never located and my old gasket was used. I'm not sure what to call this except robbery!
9. Line 103 - Re-assembled Engine. This part of the project was to be done for FREE as stated on Line 79. These tasks were already completed and charged for on Line 55.
10. Line 104 thru 105 - Picked Up New Y-Pipe & Mounting Gasket. Charged me again to pick up a part. Not mechanic labor rate.
11. Line 17 thru 19 - Transported Vessel to Boat ramp - Sea Trialed. My boat runs poorly and still overheats. If these things were tested why weren't these items noticed at this point? $275 to test a boat?

I received my boat from CYS still not running properly or cooling properly. The oil leak was fixed along with the water leak. The new carpet was ruined, the boat was filthy with grease, and the inside of my boat contained 7 weeks worth of mechanics trash, food wrappers, and extra boat parts not even from my boat?

I am willing to pay for all parts required to repair my vessel, including the ones needed to repair the "broken spark plug" issue. I am also willing to pay for the labor required to repair my oil and water leak since these two issues were resolved properly. I am not willing to pay for any labor hours spent:

· Retrieving parts
· Cleaning surfaces
· Looking up parts
· Testing my boat
· Removal of the broken sparkplug
· Second motor removal & replacement

These are not billable labor hours. Nor are they hours that should be billed at $100/hr.


Additional Information

As part of a prior arrangement made with CYS, I was to receive a $2500 credit, which was to be applied to this invoice. The first notification I received for the work performed to date, was already in excess of $3,800 of which I was to pay $1890 in order to "Keep them working on my boat" which I did. It was at this time I asked how the mechanics were going to locate the water leak with the motor already put back in the boat. This is when CYS agreed to remove the motor at their expense. The leak was then located, the "Y- pipe" was replaced and the motor was reinstalled "at their expense". My question is how can the invoice for the remainder of the work take another 15 hours if most of it was at their expense? From line 79 should be at their expense (with the exception of line 106-107 where they installed the Y-Pipe - 2 hours) since all of it pertains to either them breaking off a spark plug or reinstalling my motor at their expense.

The additional testing, picking up parts or researching their location is all added expense in order to drive up the bill.

 

First Invoice - 832.91 Parts/ 27 hrs. Labor 3782.21
My First CC Payment 1890.10
Balance 1892.11
My Credit With CYC 2500.00
New Balance +607.89
Second Invoice 15 Hours Of Labor & 400.23 Parts 1979.75
Tax 403.12

My second CC Payment
1771.86
Total Invoice 6161.96

I am currently in the process of obtaining 3 additional estimates for the same work and statements from other shop owners in the area regarding the practices of charging labor rates to "research" and "transport" parts back to the shop. Additionally I am also looking at practices regarding poor diagnostics, shop labor hours for the same type of work.


Kevin Jackman

 

 

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